>> i think he thought obama wasn't close enough. it's a couple hundred billion in revenues -- i mean in spending cuts that the president wanted and boehner said i can't believe that. neighbor he couldn't have pulled out because of the same guys that killed plan "b." >> shorter-term it looks like the republicans would feel that brunt politically of us going over the cliff. longer-term if you get into next year and you still have troubles and the economy is still weak, isn't the president taking a big chance here? i mean, do you get any sense that they're overplaying their hand because they won re-election? >> i agree with that. i think they are overplaying their hand a little bit. i think that the president doesn't want to have a second term overshadowed by a recession. which is actually an opportunity to get a few things done, completely over taken by this cliff. he does actually want a deal. i'm not sure he wants to go -- >> it's hard to be mad -- hopefully is, hard to be mad at 60 individual republicans and say i don't like this g